Surprised that more haven't picked up Lord Sumption's viewpoint. Group think led us to a Chinese model of shutdown which has had awful consequences. Almost to the point of believing the Chinese planned it that way. I see no way out of the accumulated debt other that devaluation via inflation in most nations. But it reveals a flaw in modern society rejecting independent thought and freedom. We became slaves, serfs to our masters without much kickback.
And following on from the disaster it continues with the harm from the vaccines which are proving dangerous to working age people via death and disability. History will be interesting to read by my grandchildren. I won't be around to read it. OTOH if things don't get resolved perhaps even my grandchildren won't either as we return to a pre technology world of subsistence living.
Climate change/CO2 hysteria is likely political cover for Peak Oil. It's a way to justify massive investment in alternative energy without admitting to PO. If so, then alternative energy (wind, solar) has been an epic failure because it can't replace transportation fuel (gas, diesel) and it's completely dependent on infrastructure powered by cheap oil.
I've also heard the claim the Great Reset/WEF/CBDC is a "planned fail" meant to motivate the non-sheep into becoming self-sufficient. Perhaps. Or perhaps the Elite are aiming for a "Hunger Games"-like future where only the Elite have tech.
Thank you CK for your valuable thoughts - all very good questions. Leading on from your speculation - here is my own preference that the global elites know what you and I know (after all they have the best research which they keep hidden). With this in mind, trying to put myself in their shoes, my first priority would be survival at the present level of luxury and excess consumption.
This would mean securing most of the remaining resources and the ability to extract and process them. Eurasia have most of the resources and 70% of the population (necessary willing workers). But they have to avoid an all-out nuclear conflict and yet use leverage to secure the required stuff.
Oil, and thus diesel, drives their opulent lifestyle - there is no substitute. Thus they have to minimise the use of diesel by the 99% and that can be accomplished by collapsing the present western economy and embracing the global south by some kind of dollar substitute, maybe along the lines of CBDCs.
The Chinese are well ahead on this project and at least 100 odd countries are in various stages of pilots. Remember Nathan Rothschild: "He who controls the money, controls the world" - and the ultimate control is a social credit system fuelled by CBDCs: https://expose-news.com/2022/10/26/how-businesses-soften-up-the-british-public/
This fascinating discourse answers much of yours and mine speculation - the comments are priceless:
Thanks for the link. I've read of this plan before- some claim it's a PSYOP- we should be suspicious of any mention of "white hats". We're being bombarded by misinformation and disinformation so it's difficult to discern the truth.
We're in a post-Peak Oil world so the key issue is how long will the decline take? Using the rule-of-72, if there's a 2% annual decline, then it would take 36 years before oil production plunges in half. If the rate of decline is 6%, then that time plunges to only 12 years. If the economy collapses, then perhaps no one will be able to afford further oil extraction.
No doubt the Elite will stockpile oil for themselves. But they're also dependent on the global supply chain/infrastructure, which was made possible by the Age of Oil. Everything could break for the "want of a nail".
Yes indeed CK, the nail is emblematic of the very nature of complex adaptive systems found in nature everywhere, over which man has no control. I think the UN has set 2030 based on their own models and I suspect they are probably right.
Thus the panic being witnessed today, and as they become even more desperate, their actions will become evermore extreme: There are always words of wisdom to offer comfort - we will be OK: I agree it is difficult to discern the wheat from the chaff but we will always know them by their works.
"(5) Not again will a rascal be called noble, nor will a schemer be called prominent. (6) For a rascal talks rascality and his brain works up villainy, doing ungodly things and talking fallacies about God, keeping a hungry man’s stomach empty and cutting down a thirsty man’s drink; (7) and a schemer’s skill is bad, he plans infamies, to ruin poverty-stricken men with his lying words when a needy man pleads for right; (8) but a noble man plans for noble things, and in noble things engage he will." (Isaiah 32: 5,8)
"Climate change" isn't cover for "peak oil", we have scads of oil. Whoever told you "peak oil" is a real thing is either deluded, a liar, or both. Notice the "peak oil" show has been brought to you by the same people who brought you "eat the bugs, stay in VR, and drug yourself so you'll be happy".
It's just that they/them/those don't want us to have dense, portable sources of energy, because they're trying to kill us and don't want us able to survive/fight back.
All agreed Dave, quite correct. My meaning was that they are using climate change as an excuse to limit the life-giving oil. Yes, we have tons of hydrocarbons, it might even be abiotic - it's just that the price is making it impossible to buy for most of us through market manipulation by the usual suspects.
We are a long way from peak oil. While the easiest oil has largely been found, we have developed technology to continue to mine the black stuff. And there is evidence that old wells can return to production after a long rest. The arctic has reserves we haven't yet touched much at all given the effort required. Russia can open the fields but lacks the skills to do so.
The oil dilemma has opened up alternatives that may be better. There is a future for hydrogen vehicles that once the technology has been mastered will end battery EVs and make many investments obsolete even before they really get going. And the small factory built nuclear reactors will displace central power generation once we adopt suitable smart grid controls. Those advancements will likely preserve oil for situations where the energy density is really necessary.
All this assumes we don't go green crazy like we have and that investment capital can be organized. When that capital is deployed by financial engineers, we see no real product for the world and it disappears in a shuffle like FTX. We surely have squandered a lot of our future.
All agreed HH - I am an enthusiast for hydrogen vehicles and in fact my physics master at school in the 1950s claimed a patent for a water engine had been shelved many moons ago. Here's a recent mystery:
Agreed- the world has plenty of oil- enough to last for millennia. The biggest misconception about Peak Oil is that it's about running out of oil. Peak Oil is really about running out of the low-hanging fruit i.e. cheap, affordable oil, which is essential to the global economy.
Surprised that more haven't picked up Lord Sumption's viewpoint. Group think led us to a Chinese model of shutdown which has had awful consequences. Almost to the point of believing the Chinese planned it that way. I see no way out of the accumulated debt other that devaluation via inflation in most nations. But it reveals a flaw in modern society rejecting independent thought and freedom. We became slaves, serfs to our masters without much kickback.
And following on from the disaster it continues with the harm from the vaccines which are proving dangerous to working age people via death and disability. History will be interesting to read by my grandchildren. I won't be around to read it. OTOH if things don't get resolved perhaps even my grandchildren won't either as we return to a pre technology world of subsistence living.
"perhaps even my grandchildren won't either as we return to a pre technology world of subsistence living."
Maybe it won't be so bad HH - I guess it depends on 'each to his own' philosophy. I saw traditional economies work well in Africa - here' is a description of what that means: https://www.thoughtco.com/traditional-economy-definition-and-examples-5180499
Climate change/CO2 hysteria is likely political cover for Peak Oil. It's a way to justify massive investment in alternative energy without admitting to PO. If so, then alternative energy (wind, solar) has been an epic failure because it can't replace transportation fuel (gas, diesel) and it's completely dependent on infrastructure powered by cheap oil.
I've also heard the claim the Great Reset/WEF/CBDC is a "planned fail" meant to motivate the non-sheep into becoming self-sufficient. Perhaps. Or perhaps the Elite are aiming for a "Hunger Games"-like future where only the Elite have tech.
Thank you CK for your valuable thoughts - all very good questions. Leading on from your speculation - here is my own preference that the global elites know what you and I know (after all they have the best research which they keep hidden). With this in mind, trying to put myself in their shoes, my first priority would be survival at the present level of luxury and excess consumption.
This would mean securing most of the remaining resources and the ability to extract and process them. Eurasia have most of the resources and 70% of the population (necessary willing workers). But they have to avoid an all-out nuclear conflict and yet use leverage to secure the required stuff.
Oil, and thus diesel, drives their opulent lifestyle - there is no substitute. Thus they have to minimise the use of diesel by the 99% and that can be accomplished by collapsing the present western economy and embracing the global south by some kind of dollar substitute, maybe along the lines of CBDCs.
The Chinese are well ahead on this project and at least 100 odd countries are in various stages of pilots. Remember Nathan Rothschild: "He who controls the money, controls the world" - and the ultimate control is a social credit system fuelled by CBDCs: https://expose-news.com/2022/10/26/how-businesses-soften-up-the-british-public/
This fascinating discourse answers much of yours and mine speculation - the comments are priceless:
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/07/16/bombshell-hack-of-nwo-globalists-never-before-seen-glaring-details-of-the-great-reset-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-2673828
It should keep you busy and amused :-)
Thanks for the link. I've read of this plan before- some claim it's a PSYOP- we should be suspicious of any mention of "white hats". We're being bombarded by misinformation and disinformation so it's difficult to discern the truth.
We're in a post-Peak Oil world so the key issue is how long will the decline take? Using the rule-of-72, if there's a 2% annual decline, then it would take 36 years before oil production plunges in half. If the rate of decline is 6%, then that time plunges to only 12 years. If the economy collapses, then perhaps no one will be able to afford further oil extraction.
No doubt the Elite will stockpile oil for themselves. But they're also dependent on the global supply chain/infrastructure, which was made possible by the Age of Oil. Everything could break for the "want of a nail".
Yes indeed CK, the nail is emblematic of the very nature of complex adaptive systems found in nature everywhere, over which man has no control. I think the UN has set 2030 based on their own models and I suspect they are probably right.
Thus the panic being witnessed today, and as they become even more desperate, their actions will become evermore extreme: There are always words of wisdom to offer comfort - we will be OK: I agree it is difficult to discern the wheat from the chaff but we will always know them by their works.
"(5) Not again will a rascal be called noble, nor will a schemer be called prominent. (6) For a rascal talks rascality and his brain works up villainy, doing ungodly things and talking fallacies about God, keeping a hungry man’s stomach empty and cutting down a thirsty man’s drink; (7) and a schemer’s skill is bad, he plans infamies, to ruin poverty-stricken men with his lying words when a needy man pleads for right; (8) but a noble man plans for noble things, and in noble things engage he will." (Isaiah 32: 5,8)
"Climate change" isn't cover for "peak oil", we have scads of oil. Whoever told you "peak oil" is a real thing is either deluded, a liar, or both. Notice the "peak oil" show has been brought to you by the same people who brought you "eat the bugs, stay in VR, and drug yourself so you'll be happy".
It's just that they/them/those don't want us to have dense, portable sources of energy, because they're trying to kill us and don't want us able to survive/fight back.
All agreed Dave, quite correct. My meaning was that they are using climate change as an excuse to limit the life-giving oil. Yes, we have tons of hydrocarbons, it might even be abiotic - it's just that the price is making it impossible to buy for most of us through market manipulation by the usual suspects.
We are a long way from peak oil. While the easiest oil has largely been found, we have developed technology to continue to mine the black stuff. And there is evidence that old wells can return to production after a long rest. The arctic has reserves we haven't yet touched much at all given the effort required. Russia can open the fields but lacks the skills to do so.
The oil dilemma has opened up alternatives that may be better. There is a future for hydrogen vehicles that once the technology has been mastered will end battery EVs and make many investments obsolete even before they really get going. And the small factory built nuclear reactors will displace central power generation once we adopt suitable smart grid controls. Those advancements will likely preserve oil for situations where the energy density is really necessary.
All this assumes we don't go green crazy like we have and that investment capital can be organized. When that capital is deployed by financial engineers, we see no real product for the world and it disappears in a shuffle like FTX. We surely have squandered a lot of our future.
All agreed HH - I am an enthusiast for hydrogen vehicles and in fact my physics master at school in the 1950s claimed a patent for a water engine had been shelved many moons ago. Here's a recent mystery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc_tMGJh43w
Agreed- the world has plenty of oil- enough to last for millennia. The biggest misconception about Peak Oil is that it's about running out of oil. Peak Oil is really about running out of the low-hanging fruit i.e. cheap, affordable oil, which is essential to the global economy.
https://elliottfreed.substack.com/p/is-peak-oil-even-a-thing
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49846798_Energy_return_on_investment_peak_oil_and_the_end_of_economic_growth
My own link:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358117070_THE_FINANCIAL_JIGSAW_-_PART_1_-_4th_Edition_2020
Agreed and with you all the way CK - good links. My books are also on RG but I miss your link - good one :0)
It's worse than that. There's big reserves they're deliberately not tapping into. The shortage is artificial.
Before you knee-jerk, ask yourself who benefits from the status quo.