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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

I need to read this more thoroughly and "study-up", but even small "nukes" leave an evident trace, so this ought be an easy question to answer. Maybe I'm "wrong" maybe they have "traceless nukes"....but if so, was it really even a nuke in the first place - I don't think so - by definition if a nuke is used much evidence will be left behind.

Regards,

Ken

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Here's what Mike says, as promised:

"I have spoken with Mike and here are some links. Mike is a traditional explosives expert and says 1 ton of ordinary TNT would be more than enough to do the job. Bear in mind that the RAF dropped their 10-ton 'Blockbuster' bombs on Tirpitz in 1944 (what a beautiful ship?). https://www.thehistorypress.co.uk/articles/the-sinking-of-hitler-s-battleship-tirpitz/

The SBS and SAS using possibly the secret RN mini-subs would have had no problem causing the destruction: https://gizmodo.com/nord-stream-explosion-russia-germany-pipeline-1849671199

AND: https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-hersh-got-wrong/5808306 BUT finally - Kit Knightly understands the 'false binary'

https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/01/nordstream-sabotage-deeper-dive/

Happy days, Ken

AP

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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

Either way, no matter the conclusions of the root cause analysis nobody cares about anymore because if you don't release the findings, then you are suspect with respect to what you release - so grow the eff up.

Anyhow, I suspect the pipeline can be repaired. Maybe that happens, Poland gets Galicia, Russia retains Odessa, Germany gets gas supply steady - and everybody learns a lesson.

What you think P&S - I suppose it depends on blinkin dimwits realizing the days of hegemony are over and if you push more harm, then we will hunt you down.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

LOL - yes indeed Ken - I agree, the dimwits will never understand why their Empire of Lies collapsed until it's too late to do anything about it. In the meantime, you have your garden and I will have my small boat in FBYC, safe and sound!

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The bomb would be even easier to detonate if it was placed there previously in anticipation. And if it was, then a signal must be sent, and if a signal was sent there is evidence of that as well - just like any radioactive particles short-lived down there in the vicinity if it was a nuke - there is evidence either way, just as there is evidence regarding the plane shot down after the assassination of the Iranian general on a peace mission.

I play to win and express my thanks to Mike for his wisdom.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

So very true Ken, thank you. No need for BOOM's nukes IMHO.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Agreed Ken. I have a good friend, Mike; we've sailed together for 40+ years; he is a retired explosives expert. He knew right away what happened in the Lebanon port disaster and BOOM has ask me to get his expert assessment on Nord Stream 2. I am awaiting his call and will get back to you.

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HardeeHo's avatar

There is an AF organization, the Air Force Technical Applications Center (AFTAC) who has he job of detecting any nuclear event and has since detecting Joe-1 on a flight to Alaska. They have recently deployed their sampling aircraft, Constant Phoenix, to outside Ukraine. They run a seismic network worldwide which is part of The World network run by CTBTO https://www.ctbto.org/our-work/detecting-nuclear-tests. That network knows the signature of any nuclear event from the tiny to the large. Other detection means exist as well including air sampling stations in about every nation that include gamma spectroscopy. All report in real time to the CTBTO. We have seen no reporting of an event so any person doing such a report might be of question. Why?

I might think anybody trying to assemble a small nuke would need to be exceedingly careful. Handling such material is not trivial as researchers who died from a blue flash at Los Alamos might attest. Not sure how a minimal yield device might be constructed.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

This is great Intel 'HH', thank you very much. I will copy to BOOM.

Blessings

AP

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HardeeHo's avatar

Thanks for the relay. I couldn't comment on the Boom page - comments turned off.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

What? Has my good friend BOOM turn down 'comments? Phew, I must have a word in his ear. The trouble with geniuses I find, is that they expect everyone of us ordinary folk to be as smart as they are!

I have to say that I am in debt to BOOM big-time because he has spent literally many months educating me about the Global Financial System which at the outset of writing my book in 2013, I got all wrong. I merely regurgitated what I had been taught by my economics professors at university - and they had it all so wrong too.

But here's the 'reality' - have a laugh. Even these guys get it wrong - can you spot the error? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_3T-Af57Pg

It's not a test for you, 'HH' but is illustrative of how far wrong I was!

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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

I think it was conventional explosives (high-powered) that were used to blow the fuse that blew up the pipeline and released the methane in high-pressure storage. I'm damn near positive the pipeline could be repaired - and it is a no-brainer for anybody who cares about Germany. I only care about Germany cause my kin come from there - I don't live there anymore - we had to run away. But still - Germany so desperately needs a clue - let me give it - gas from Russia makes good sense for German industry and German industry might be a nice fit with Russian ambitions - to grow together.

How you like them apples?

The zionist out there - those of the zionism ideology - they can take it and shove it - so says the member of the crew from the Liberty ship know better.

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HardeeHo's avatar

At some point Russia will stop the war and the pipeline can be repaired. The EU does need that gas and will get it eventually, more than just Germany. Might be a different marketplace with Russia competing to supply the EU.

The real question, can Germany free itself from the greens and the Marxists? We can see that trend starting and may be huge by winter, but who knows.

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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

OK, I'm going to take the response provided as sort of affirmation that if small nukes were part of the pipeline sabotage there would be evidence easily found - I mean those radioactive particles tend to settle and then they give off some of their radioactive goods to share with the local community - and it is OBVIOUS.

So what this means is presumably either BOOM is just outright wrong or maybe pushing a false narrative - I mean nobody is perfect, but if somebody is wrong once, don't you think they can be wrong again - even if they are super important busy and such?

so really - tis WAR!

A war of ideas is what it is and may the best ideas prevail.

I know what side I am on.

BK

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

All good Ken. BOOM has an undying faith in 'science' and was captured by this video of a top-flight Physicist who thought he had the answer in nukes. But we all know what thought did - LOL.

These 'experts' live in ivory towers and have no idea about the real world. I discount 99% of them, but I can assure that BOOM has his feet on the ground and was merely exploring an hypothesis..

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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

If you like BOOM I like BOOM I reckon, but I'm not sure BOOM likes me - probably doesn't even know I exist - and sometimes old farts need a bit of a jab in the ribs to keep their minds sharp - I'm almost an old fart myself now, but not quite yet!

Peace.

Ken

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

LOL - I AM and old fart Ken, well that's what my grandchildren say, but at 78 I am fit and healthy, ready to adventure once more! Regrettably BOOM does not easily tolerate fools (by his definition) - he is an exceptional genius IMHO and these guys find it difficult to relate to us ordinary chaps.

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Well what good is an "old fart" if he doesn't have "old fart friends" to keep him in line every now and then and make sure that the old fart don't become pompous - cause there is just about nothing else in the world, excepting a calvinist I reckon, that gets on my nerves more than a pompous old fart. I intend on never being one.

Warm Regards,

Ken

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GregB's avatar

Spot on Ken.

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GregB's avatar

2 comments, first on NATO.

"However, after making such a horrible mess in Ukraine, he [Stoltenberg] simply cannot be replaced because nobody can be found who will take over his job at NATO." I understood that it was a done deal that Von der Leyen is lined up for the job after Joe B vetoed Ben Wallace even though Stoltenberg is being given a 1 year extension.

Second on the WEF.

I get the impression that Western politicians no longer want to be seen at Davos, because their close links with the WEF were doing them damage in the eyes of some of the electorate. This does not mean that the influence of the WEF is any less, just that the puppet masters have realised that they must be less obvious. Plenty of money has changed hands (I read) and continues so to do.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

All spot on Greg, thank you. But this goes back to the 1950s when their dystopian plans were launched by the CIA: https://cdn.getmidnight.com/6908ab1f9a9ecdaba4ee2509cb3451aa/files/2023/01/Silent-Weapons-for-Quiet-Wars-An-Introduction-Programming-Manual-Operations-Rese.pdf

But if you prefer a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6BD3brGIew

A bit of study required but it all fits.

Blessings

AP

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GregB's avatar

I feel that he stretches the analogies too far and doesn't notice where they break down. I gave up at this on page 62-3 "He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant. Thus, a man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this instrument of the government, be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. "

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Wow, you are the only one to have read it to my knowledge Greg and given feedback -thank you very much. How do you feel about the authenticity? It is so dystopian that I have my doubts. There's so much fake about these days it's like walking thorough a swamp!

I have been following new 911 evidence as it emerges - there is no doubt the WTC was demolished but it's old news now, as always, so the perps get away again: https://www.globalresearch.ca/eyewitness-evidence-explosions-twin-towers/5826413

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Et's Cinema PsychoMasonica's avatar

That Xi is a "dictator" may be one of only a handful of true things that Mazza Joe has ever let slip out of his mouth. That certainly never occurs on purpose! I still don't think I could use up the fingers on two hands with his truth gafs since he has been in office.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

But a 'benevolent dictator' Et, at least for the Chinese themselves who have a propensity to be good community members and follow their leaders without question. Mao proved this in spades as he demonstrated how far he could dictate.

"Mao solidified his control through the land reform campaign against landlords, the Campaign to Suppress Counter-revolutionaries, the "Three-anti and Five-anti Campaigns", and through a truce in the Korean War, which altogether resulted in the deaths of several million Chinese."

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mao-Zedong

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Et's Cinema PsychoMasonica's avatar

If you could call 45,000,000 avoidable deaths during the Great Leap Forward to be in any way benevolent. Now they are in the process of locking the entire population down into 15 minute gulags with biometric controls. This "benevolence" is coming to a place near you, as they say. China has always been the Beta test for things they plan to roll out everywhere eventually. They have had 70 + years of this testing in China. If getting to be the initial "white rats" for testing policies intended to eventually enslave all humanity was any kind of perceived "benevolence" by the Chinese it would surprise me. The Chinese have ruled by fear for 3000 years. They have been properly domesticated for sure.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Very true, Et viewed from the aspect of the western mind but the Chinese think differently. The individual has no value only as part of the community and therefore 45 million lost is of no consequence as a percentage of 1.5 billion. This short video of their social credit system pilot explains how compliant the Asians are:, (you have probably seen it anyway):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyzpMDtpSE

The Banksters have watched the Chinese develop their control systems and seek to repeat them in the West but have not taken into account the level of resistance they will face. If they do win through by force and PsyOp the only way out is to go off grid because the Mark of the Beast will prevent a person living in their world. Thus I have my Plan 'B' in operation now and is why I am off to South Africa in a few months: https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/progressing-plan-b-a-quarterly-review?s=w

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Bill D's avatar

I doubt Sweden and Finland would agree with the idea that Ukraine war is about US fear mongering and weapons sales. They saw Putin start a war in Europe to take over a sovereign country, and considered they could be next if not under NATO’s protection. Dropping their traditional neutrality, particularly Sweden, says a lot about what they think regarding Putin’s war in Ukraine and what he might do I

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

True Bill, they clearly fear the Great Bear and of course Finland got invaded by the Rus not even a century ago. But I doubt Putin's target is to take Ukraine but merely to defend against NATO's constant movement East. This 'war' is more complex than a simple one side versus another IMHO. It has now devolved into a WW1 scenario.

USA was top dog in 1991 when the USSR imploded but has been asleep at the wheel since then. There's not much left of their industrial capacity - a shadow of the former MIC (out-sourcing), after the Intelligence community captured all the government institutions. Here's an appreciation of the Ukraine counter-offensive and why it's going nowhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqQxMkShbeM

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Bill D's avatar

As far as the counter offensive, 20 clicks of mines, dragons teeth and trenches can certainly slow an attack. However, the Ukrainians have shown they are adaptive in there strategy and tactics, the Russians not so much. The cluster bomb munitions will help in clearing trenches and counter battery. Time will tell.

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Bill D's avatar

No way to know what is in Putin’s head, just his actions and words. He’s invaded parts of Georgia, Crimea Donbas and Transnistria. He’s stated that Ukraine wasn’t a country and shouldn’t exist, has threatened the Baltic states and Poland, laments the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest tragedy in history. He’s stated that he can invade any territory to “protect ethic Russians”. IMHO, Putin wants to rebuild as much of the Soviet Empire as possible and control the choke points such as the Suwali gap in Poland and Romania. NATO expansion was just an excuse to invade Ukraine, there was no way Germany would approve that as long as they were so dependent on Russian gas. Like Hitler in the late 30s, I don’t think he’d stop unless he was stopped. I give enough credit to the European leaders that they realized the existential threat to Europe that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, on the door step of Western Europe, presented and rallied to Ukraines defense. Better that Putin be stopped now then have him emboldened to “protect ethnic Russians” in a Baltic state.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

We have to agree to disagree agree Bill - I don't see it that way at all - but then I am of Viking heritage, and the Rus are my tribe, so perhaps I am biased?

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Bill D's avatar

I’m Dutch English what ever that means. I’m also a retired senior military officer and avid reader of history. To quote Winston Churchill, “ those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it” I see history repeating.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

Thanks Bill, I too am a military historian, having served with HMG War Office in the 1960s at SHAPE. My wife is South African and we spent 10 happy years in Simons Town (1999-2009) (you can guess why).

We had to return to UK at the end of 2009 to get my wife a British Passport (took 5 years) and then I had an assignment which ended in 2020 when we were locked down! This is the first opportunity for us to get back to SA where our hearts lie and plan to exit UK by the end of this year.

I understand Dutch/English as my wife is fluent in Afrikaans and I try my best when these wonderful people say: "jy moet 'n plan maak" But that's often all they do! I found Cape Town to be slower than mañana which is lovely and a great relief from the stress inherent in UK.

Good to make contact my friend, stay in touch, as events are unfolding in the global south that might rock the collective west in due course.

Best wishes

AP

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Bill D's avatar

We’re in the mist of the 4th turning, (Neil howe) and it usually doesn’t end very pretty, either war or depression or both. I worry about my kids future. I subscribe to capitalist exploits by Chris Macintosh who was raised in SA. He thinks the country is on a path to become the next Zimbabwe with the corruption, ineptitude and race based politics that destroyed the bread basket of Africa. Doesn’t seem the ANC cares much for the inclusive ideals of Nelson Mandela after his death. Curious your thoughts on the subject as I haven’t followed it that closely.

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Buffalo_Ken's avatar

Here is another thought for consideration for those who dig rabbit holes deep. It is known that Sweden conducted a root cause analysis of the pipeline event, and presumably that analysis would have accessed the presence of any nuclear activity that was part of the event. If Sweden continues to hide the results of the root cause analysis performed, they are what is referred to as equivalent to the ones who committed the crime. If you hide a known crime, you are part of it.

So really, we all know - Sweden not only knows what happened, one can't help but wonder if Swedish aristocrats are behind it in a way. Denmark must know - Norway as well....Finland is totally clueless, they they probably are soon to be part of Russia.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

This is true, Ken, 'accessory after the fact' which is equivalent to being the Perp. Ha Ha - Finland was invaded by Russia - the war began with a Soviet invasion of Finland on 30 November 1939, three months after the outbreak of World War II, and ended three and a half months later with the Moscow Peace Treaty on 13 March 1940.

They are the same tribe Ken, my tribe. Vikings will prevail in the end and form a cooperative stockade like they did in 850AD in Britain.

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So Sweden and the aristocrats from there - did you know Sweden was once considered a "Great Power" - anyhow, these Swedes have refused to share what they already know and I think that is despicable because any root cause analysis depends upon information being shared freely. But lets decide together here what ought be evident:

1. The Pipeline was sabotaged.

2. There was more than one detonation.

3. One line may have survived - in fact, it is possible gas could flow now.

4. If a survey easy was done in the area, the facts of the matter could be readily determined.

5. This would require transparency and it is a fair question to ask - why has this not happened already.

Well ask the Swedes I reckon, but we all sort of know who is behind it and truly *kraine is no longer a sovereign place and Odessa - she beckons.

So - eff you bullies - you get what you give.

BK

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You remember the ole days in the mind of King Charles when the Brits used to rule the oceans after they figured out a way to place the cannons iron strong with powder on the ships floating? Makes one wonder what will happen to the Brits being the Romans ain't there no more and the UK is a big joke?

I reckon Ireland will leave first and then Scotland. Wales most likely would be advised to depart as well and then those few in the deep catacombs in the City of London - they will be all alone and their debt will have no meaning whatsoever - then the jubilee will be declared and maybe then and only then, the City of London's heart will be healed.

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PROTECT & SURVIVE's avatar

It's a wonderful vision, Ken and I share your feeling about decentralisation - it will come in the end but the centre will hold out and may even resort to Martial Law before this Fourth Turning is over.

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Could it be if the whole 4th Turning thing was anticipated that in a sort of way history would not repeat again? I think that is a non-trivial possibility P&S - I'm not saying - bank on it - I'm just saying it is a non-trivial possibility.

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It is indeed a real possibility Ken, the Club of Rome published at book in the 1970s indicating exactly what is happening now - they knew a long time ago.

""Limits to Growth," was the path-breaking report to the Club of Rome. It caused outrage worldwide. Released just before the first oil crisis in 1973, the Report drew on the growing awareness of environmental impacts of human activity and predicted dire consequences if the then present rate and scale of natural resource consumption was not tempered."

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Limits-Growth-Project-Predicament-Mankind/dp/0330241699

I've read a lot of books, Ken.

Blessings

AP

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