Politicians saving the world? Why do they go down this delusional hill? Why have they bought into the CO2 myth? Power maybe?
I like the US Constitution's definition of basic government roles.
"According to the preamble of the United States Constitution, the five aims of government are to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare. There is actually a sixth function of government outlined by the Constitution that asserts the government will secure the blessings of liberty to its citizens and future generations." (From reference . com)
For other matters, leave us alone, please!
Oh, wait. Of course wind farm energy is free because the wind is free, isn't it?
(Unless you factor in the total cost of a wind farm, site preparation, build and maintenance along with a comparatively short life. If you do, the true total life cost per KW/Hr produced, makes it probably the most expensive method of generating electricity cw nuclear/gas/coal etc.)
Ha Ha, Greg all so true. At sea the wind is free, as is the food from the sea, and my freedom is rooted here - at least for me. Only God and the elements dictate my passage and the angels direct my course. It's wonderful to be a part of a universe that my Creator provided for me FOC! I give thanks for His mercy.
"Let us explain how this beautiful tree and its nourishing fruit played a key role in this story and in earlier epic voyages of discovery. If the breadfruit tree could only speak, what stories it would tell of a time thousands of years ago when it accompanied ancient mariners on great voyages of discovery!"
"However, Paul’s many vivid memories of sea voyages involve far more than refreshing breezes and open horizons. The duration of voyages depended entirely on the winds."
CO2 is not a myth, the effects are quite observable.
However, there is lots of money to be made in continuing to emit huge quantities of CO2, plus a a certain very large country with massive fossil fuel reserves is enjoying their northern coast being sufficiently ice free in Northern hemisphere Summers to access resources there + their newly opened NW passage access to the world's ocean transport system. Why let some ecofreak coastal foreigners break their rice bowl by killing off their greatest cash cow + returning their Federation to a landlocked prisoner of coastal/sea peoples?
Every "alternative energy" source which can be shoehorned into a for profit utility company + paid service distributed to customers business model is pursued by investor capital and the governments controlled by financial oligarchs (all of the "liberal" ones). Wind farms, giant solar farms, huge hydro electric dam + generation, the costs of the energy input are not important, the price the electricity can be sold for (to a captive market of solely dependant customers) is the driving factor.
As far as the logic of investing in wind farms? Any kind of alternative energy which is DECENTRALIZED and hence not easily susceptible to being controlled for their electric grid distribution profits will NOT be pursued by power company owners, what motive do the present owners have to cut their own throats by freeing their customers from "the grid"? Giant wind farms + PR for "green washing" those installations ownership are good business (for their developers & power company owners). The mere fact that they presently make little economic sense is not something there is good money to be made by advertising...
We must disagree on the role of CO2. If you take a jar of 100% CO2 and pass Electromagnetic Radiation, at various frequencies, through the jar, you will discover that it blocks EMR in the narrowest of frequency bands, and that is at 100%. CO2 in the atmosphere is at 0.04%.
The original scientists that contributed to the first IPCC Report were horrified that their comments that CO2 had a minor part to play in global warming, if any, were horrified when their submissions were altered to support the political view. The IPCC was hijacked for political purposes, right at the beginning, in 1990.
I've followed this travesty, closely, ever since then. The climate goes through warm and cool cycles. We are in a warm cycle.
This is all about power play. The UN failed in its power grab, over the FTT. Climate became the next opportunity.
All true Greg. Life and the universe are cylical, not linear, but unfortunately humans tend to think in the linear. We are confused because complex adaptive ssystems confuse the static human mind. It has ever been so:
The predicament the world is facing is not financial, it is physical. The world of finance is an abstract construct, mirage, a physically non-existent scheme for trading stuff that has gone insanely unhinged. The problem with minerals is that there is simply not enough of them. Ditto energy needed to extract and process them. The Earth is a finite system, there is only so much stuff that can be extracted, processed, discarded at an ever accelerating rate.
The time has come to realize that finance-based economics is complete horseshit because it essentially relies on current demand, which in turn stems from how a bunch of idiots perceive reality, where it needs to be said that most people are myopic morons unable to see beyond the tip of their nose.
People like Simon Michaux have made pretty detailed calculations regarding minerals, energy, etc. Finances play a negligible role in all this.
One involves everybody in the (now much more populated than in 1950s) world trying for a level of consumerism attained (briefly, now being watered down or cancelled for most) by Americans & a portion of populations in some of their (subsidized) satellite states after WWII, during which much of the world's infrastructure had been wrecked and subsequent to, the USA had a seller's market plus a MIC which effectively sourced materials & energy at a pittance over the barrel of a gun. That's a future your article points out some "issues" with...
Or we could aim for a similar world population where everyone is ADEQUATELY well fed BUT not on what were traditionaly "luxury" foods such as grain fed beef (yo, you all are scared of "eating bugs"? How do you feel about cultured proteins from GM microorganisms, krill instead of sushi and/or soybeans with a bit of rice?), where optimum/carefully economised use of technology and raw materials & manufactured goods potentially could provide a level of comfort and longevity unobtainable by medieval royalty, yet rather less than Donald Trump/Bill Gates presently desire for themselves- One lawnmower shared among neighbors instead of one in every garage? Mass transit and some road vehicle sharing instead of every family having one (or several) private vehicles? No more jetting off to another continent for the weekend on a whim??? So boring, if you used to have a three car garage and liked steak & your own motorsport toys. So desirable sounding if you are presently eating actual bugs & rats plus some rice or millet on a good day with a bicycle being luxury transport.
Alternatively, we COULD have the luxury consumerist lifestyle for everyone on earth with no irritating shortages- If there were suddenly only about 5% of the present population and all the menial work done by 3rd world immigrant workers in the West and sweatshop virtual slaves in poorest places on earth were taken over by AI controlled machinery. But odds are 19 to 1 that YOU won't be one of that lucky 5%, plus the population reduction mechanisms will likely be pretty damn ugly.
Try for the physically impossible, crash hard and burn. New dark ages at best, extinction at worst.
Recalibrate, retool, redevelop and work together collectively (ugh! SOCIALISM!! TRANSNATIONALISM!!!) & without killing each other over stock values for a change and we mostly survive, albeit without solid gold toilets or billion dollar private yachts- How do you sell THAT future to present day oligarchs?
Or, if your DOD has the means, unilaterally move to erase 95% of the world's population in some fashion not contaminating it with fallout so you & YOUR children can enjoy the "jackpot", the lucky few owning all of everything without pesky foreigners or "little peoples" annoying self centered interferences. Wonder why we pay for all those bio labs in Asia any more?
Wonderful, erudite discourse, Billy, and thank you for taking the time, and clearly your deep understanding of humanity's dilemma. My answer has always been to downsize, return to our roots, 'Less is More' and that is why I am here in this wonderful South African Western Cape! I am a lifetime yachtsman so understand the need to bend to the elements and God's Will.
The genie never fits back in the bottle and letting go of the tiger's ears seldom ends well (for the rider).
I agree with your paradigm on a personal level, I've got a garden and don't buy shiny crap advertised by the MSM.
But as a species, we will either continue to advance technologically (plus learn to apply technology in a much better thought out, ethically more responsible manner, rather than a pure short term investor profit basis) or we will go extinct- be it through our own actions or the mischances common to planetary ecosystems in the longer term (large meteor collisions, vulcanism related atmospheric changes, solar cycle induced ice age, gamma ray burst off a nearby stellar event, giant space goat farts, too many ways to catalogue).
Planets are great starter niches for intelligence, similar to a mangrove swamp "nursery" for coral reef or pelagic ocean life forms. I dearly love this one and would like to see it better cared for by the present dominant species- But once you know, you go.
Politicians saving the world? Why do they go down this delusional hill? Why have they bought into the CO2 myth? Power maybe?
I like the US Constitution's definition of basic government roles.
"According to the preamble of the United States Constitution, the five aims of government are to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense and promote the general welfare. There is actually a sixth function of government outlined by the Constitution that asserts the government will secure the blessings of liberty to its citizens and future generations." (From reference . com)
For other matters, leave us alone, please!
Oh, wait. Of course wind farm energy is free because the wind is free, isn't it?
(Unless you factor in the total cost of a wind farm, site preparation, build and maintenance along with a comparatively short life. If you do, the true total life cost per KW/Hr produced, makes it probably the most expensive method of generating electricity cw nuclear/gas/coal etc.)
Ha Ha, Greg all so true. At sea the wind is free, as is the food from the sea, and my freedom is rooted here - at least for me. Only God and the elements dictate my passage and the angels direct my course. It's wonderful to be a part of a universe that my Creator provided for me FOC! I give thanks for His mercy.
"Let us explain how this beautiful tree and its nourishing fruit played a key role in this story and in earlier epic voyages of discovery. If the breadfruit tree could only speak, what stories it would tell of a time thousands of years ago when it accompanied ancient mariners on great voyages of discovery!"
"However, Paul’s many vivid memories of sea voyages involve far more than refreshing breezes and open horizons. The duration of voyages depended entirely on the winds."
Are we returning to our roots?
Blessings
AP
@Gregb
CO2 is not a myth, the effects are quite observable.
However, there is lots of money to be made in continuing to emit huge quantities of CO2, plus a a certain very large country with massive fossil fuel reserves is enjoying their northern coast being sufficiently ice free in Northern hemisphere Summers to access resources there + their newly opened NW passage access to the world's ocean transport system. Why let some ecofreak coastal foreigners break their rice bowl by killing off their greatest cash cow + returning their Federation to a landlocked prisoner of coastal/sea peoples?
Every "alternative energy" source which can be shoehorned into a for profit utility company + paid service distributed to customers business model is pursued by investor capital and the governments controlled by financial oligarchs (all of the "liberal" ones). Wind farms, giant solar farms, huge hydro electric dam + generation, the costs of the energy input are not important, the price the electricity can be sold for (to a captive market of solely dependant customers) is the driving factor.
As far as the logic of investing in wind farms? Any kind of alternative energy which is DECENTRALIZED and hence not easily susceptible to being controlled for their electric grid distribution profits will NOT be pursued by power company owners, what motive do the present owners have to cut their own throats by freeing their customers from "the grid"? Giant wind farms + PR for "green washing" those installations ownership are good business (for their developers & power company owners). The mere fact that they presently make little economic sense is not something there is good money to be made by advertising...
We must disagree on the role of CO2. If you take a jar of 100% CO2 and pass Electromagnetic Radiation, at various frequencies, through the jar, you will discover that it blocks EMR in the narrowest of frequency bands, and that is at 100%. CO2 in the atmosphere is at 0.04%.
The original scientists that contributed to the first IPCC Report were horrified that their comments that CO2 had a minor part to play in global warming, if any, were horrified when their submissions were altered to support the political view. The IPCC was hijacked for political purposes, right at the beginning, in 1990.
I've followed this travesty, closely, ever since then. The climate goes through warm and cool cycles. We are in a warm cycle.
This is all about power play. The UN failed in its power grab, over the FTT. Climate became the next opportunity.
All true Greg. Life and the universe are cylical, not linear, but unfortunately humans tend to think in the linear. We are confused because complex adaptive ssystems confuse the static human mind. It has ever been so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfPmq9fzxQ
Re: Can it be financed
The predicament the world is facing is not financial, it is physical. The world of finance is an abstract construct, mirage, a physically non-existent scheme for trading stuff that has gone insanely unhinged. The problem with minerals is that there is simply not enough of them. Ditto energy needed to extract and process them. The Earth is a finite system, there is only so much stuff that can be extracted, processed, discarded at an ever accelerating rate.
The time has come to realize that finance-based economics is complete horseshit because it essentially relies on current demand, which in turn stems from how a bunch of idiots perceive reality, where it needs to be said that most people are myopic morons unable to see beyond the tip of their nose.
People like Simon Michaux have made pretty detailed calculations regarding minerals, energy, etc. Finances play a negligible role in all this.
You are so right, Paul. Agreed entirely - the Money Cabal have hypnotised everyone. Dr Tim Morgan makes this point time and again: https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/
And Gail Tverberg agrees: https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/05/27/dont-expect-the-world-economy-to-resume-its-prior-growth-pattern-after-covid-19/
Which I wrote about a while ago: https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-financial-jigsaw-part-2-the-end?s=w
We have a couple of choices as a species.
One involves everybody in the (now much more populated than in 1950s) world trying for a level of consumerism attained (briefly, now being watered down or cancelled for most) by Americans & a portion of populations in some of their (subsidized) satellite states after WWII, during which much of the world's infrastructure had been wrecked and subsequent to, the USA had a seller's market plus a MIC which effectively sourced materials & energy at a pittance over the barrel of a gun. That's a future your article points out some "issues" with...
Or we could aim for a similar world population where everyone is ADEQUATELY well fed BUT not on what were traditionaly "luxury" foods such as grain fed beef (yo, you all are scared of "eating bugs"? How do you feel about cultured proteins from GM microorganisms, krill instead of sushi and/or soybeans with a bit of rice?), where optimum/carefully economised use of technology and raw materials & manufactured goods potentially could provide a level of comfort and longevity unobtainable by medieval royalty, yet rather less than Donald Trump/Bill Gates presently desire for themselves- One lawnmower shared among neighbors instead of one in every garage? Mass transit and some road vehicle sharing instead of every family having one (or several) private vehicles? No more jetting off to another continent for the weekend on a whim??? So boring, if you used to have a three car garage and liked steak & your own motorsport toys. So desirable sounding if you are presently eating actual bugs & rats plus some rice or millet on a good day with a bicycle being luxury transport.
Alternatively, we COULD have the luxury consumerist lifestyle for everyone on earth with no irritating shortages- If there were suddenly only about 5% of the present population and all the menial work done by 3rd world immigrant workers in the West and sweatshop virtual slaves in poorest places on earth were taken over by AI controlled machinery. But odds are 19 to 1 that YOU won't be one of that lucky 5%, plus the population reduction mechanisms will likely be pretty damn ugly.
Try for the physically impossible, crash hard and burn. New dark ages at best, extinction at worst.
Recalibrate, retool, redevelop and work together collectively (ugh! SOCIALISM!! TRANSNATIONALISM!!!) & without killing each other over stock values for a change and we mostly survive, albeit without solid gold toilets or billion dollar private yachts- How do you sell THAT future to present day oligarchs?
Or, if your DOD has the means, unilaterally move to erase 95% of the world's population in some fashion not contaminating it with fallout so you & YOUR children can enjoy the "jackpot", the lucky few owning all of everything without pesky foreigners or "little peoples" annoying self centered interferences. Wonder why we pay for all those bio labs in Asia any more?
Wonderful, erudite discourse, Billy, and thank you for taking the time, and clearly your deep understanding of humanity's dilemma. My answer has always been to downsize, return to our roots, 'Less is More' and that is why I am here in this wonderful South African Western Cape! I am a lifetime yachtsman so understand the need to bend to the elements and God's Will.
https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/easy-living-in-south-africa-icj-ruling?sd=pf
Blessings
AP
@Protect & Survive
The genie never fits back in the bottle and letting go of the tiger's ears seldom ends well (for the rider).
I agree with your paradigm on a personal level, I've got a garden and don't buy shiny crap advertised by the MSM.
But as a species, we will either continue to advance technologically (plus learn to apply technology in a much better thought out, ethically more responsible manner, rather than a pure short term investor profit basis) or we will go extinct- be it through our own actions or the mischances common to planetary ecosystems in the longer term (large meteor collisions, vulcanism related atmospheric changes, solar cycle induced ice age, gamma ray burst off a nearby stellar event, giant space goat farts, too many ways to catalogue).
Planets are great starter niches for intelligence, similar to a mangrove swamp "nursery" for coral reef or pelagic ocean life forms. I dearly love this one and would like to see it better cared for by the present dominant species- But once you know, you go.
Fabulous Billy, you put my scribbles into darkeness - you should write a Substack of your own - your way with words is awesome. :-)
Blessings
AP